Friday, June 7, 2024

"Mongol" polytonym and ethnic identity

The word "Mongol" did not exist among the peoples and tribes led by Genghis before 1212.  When the war with the Jin dynasty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin_dynasty_(1115–1234)) started, the courtiers, who had fled from there and changed it to a master of Jurchen origin, laid the groundwork for the acceptance of that name with the recommendation of Genghis Khan, whom they entered into their new service.  Pavel Rykin, who conducted a comparative critical analysis of primary sources in many different languages, wrote about this in great detail: https://www.avetruthbooks.com/tag/pavel-rykin

Ethnic Turks were the majority in Genghis's army, as can be known from many primary sources. 

The current history of Mongolian-speaking peoples is extremely fake.  In the circles, fraud has reached its peak.

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 + you can get acquainted with the third oldest Turkish dialect in the last book of this author: https://www.avetruthbooks.com/tag/orcun-unal

Although the material is collected, we cannot pretend that it is not yet available, but there are many research works on forgeries, you will see them all in time.

In the matter of documents, the clerks who write the documents are not given importance, although it is very important.  For example, the correspondence between the Kazakh khans and the Manchurian commanders and governors of East Turkestan was conducted in the "Mongolian" language, so to speak in today's language, and since the documents were published, it can be seen that the Oyrat/Dzungar scribes who were captured by the Kazakh khans were Oyrat who served the Manchu governor in East Turkestan on behalf of the khan.   Secretaries of Dzungar origin also wrote on behalf of the governor.

In the matter of documents, the clerks who write the documents are not given importance, although it is very important.  For example, the correspondence between the Kazakh khans and the Manchurian commanders and governors of East Turkestan was conducted in the "Mongolian" language, so to speak in today's language, and since the documents were published, it can be seen that the Oyrat/Dzungar scribes who were captured by the Kazakh khans were Oyrat who served the Manchu governor in East Turkestan on behalf of the khan. Secretaries of Dzungar origin also wrote on behalf of the governor.

There is a Chinese work from 1368 that describes the hierarchical division of free master, free and dependent communities during the (late) Yuan dynasty.  In that work, the Jurchens (later to be called Manchus) are also described in the list of peoples, and in the list of tribes into which they are divided (let's say tribe, tribe also means part) "Peoples" is on the 30th place.  The Jurchens were listed as dependent peoples and were not listed as Mongols.  I read this for the first time from Kazakhs on a social network, then I found the same place in the dissertation of the Kazakh who wrote it (it was added to the site as an introduction article), I tried to write the name in Chinese to see if there was such a person, I was very clumsy, I could not write the name exactly according to the original, in the end a Turkologist (Russian  ) our friend Vladimir Tishin helped me clarify the name of the work and the name of the author, showed me a Chinese site, after clarifying the information, I got partial translations of the work into English, the Chinese text and the manuscripts of the work (these are two different lists).  I spent a lot of time looking for these naturally.  Of course, those parts, the text, the part that interests us, and the manuscripts will be available. 

The formation of ethnos is generally a very complex process, but in fake "folk history" everything is very simple, because it happened artificially on what we can only call current or modern (19th-20th centuries) writings.

There are also correspondences between the Manchurians and the Khalkha Khans of the new era. The Manchurians write that we are the same people, why do you fight against us?

No language of the "Mongolian" people spoken today was spoken in Genghis's court.  The language of the texts, which were introduced in the name of the language of the Mongolian language (13-14th century) monuments, was completely different from the current "Mongolian languages" and has a terrible amount of Turkism.  In addition to the fact that the language is rich in Turkisms, the rules are similar to the Turkish language.  Rikin has put the whole theory to the ground in a very fundamental way.  The Churchens fought many wars with the state of the Zin dynasty: in present-day northern China.  The Churchens had previously occupied the Kidan state (those who fled to the west called their state Black Khitay).  Many people in the palace of the Churchens saw the power of Genghis and took refuge in him and entered his service.  The Churchens were a people they knew well before: they lived on the coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, but the Churchens killed them to the last person in wars: the newly arrived officials suggested to Genghis in 1211-1212 to accept their name as a threat.  He agrees to accept this name.  After defeating the Churchens, all courtiers (survivors: Chinese, Churchen, Kidan and etc.) went to the service of Genghis.  Genghis had many officials: now it is necessary to clarify whether those letters were written by Kidan officials or who wrote them.

The current clans were a group of Jurchens, the few remaining sons of Genghis were expelled from China during the Ming dynasty and took refuge in the steppe, then a very fierce struggle began between the tribal associations that strengthened in the steppe and the successors of Genghis from the Yuan dynasty, as a result of which all the princes died. 

A group called Chakhar falsely elected a khan under the auspices of the Ming dynasty, a continuation of the Greek dynasty, and disguised him as a successor to the Yuan dynasty.  Rikin wrote about the ethnogenesis of Mongol society in the 13th century and the meaning and history of the term Mongol before and during the 13th century.

Writings by Rykin: https://www.avetruthbooks.com/tag/pavel-rykin

The name of the khan who was attacked was Dayan khan.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayan_Khan

 The Khalkhas replaced the former Mongols, and as there were very few Mongols left, they prevailed when mixed with them. 

 In Ulaanbaatar, they gave Rikin a large sum of money as a reward (bribe) for those two articles.  After that, he stopped writing about it.

Fazlullah Rashiduddin also wrote that the word Mongolian is a nickname (false name) and each tribe had its own name.

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