Thursday, March 21, 2024

Armenian (demonym and religionym) (2)

Armenians have been considered an ethnic people since the 18th century. First, there was a religious community (speaking different languages) called Armenian.  However, Armenians have always called themselves Armenians. In the church, they worshiped in the ancient Iranian language (Pahlavi language). The word hay was coined at the end of the 17th century. There is a book that Schiltberger later wrote about what he saw during his captivity. There is an inscription of him from the 1470s.  While there, he wrote in a book what he heard from the Armenians who approached him. In his book, Schiltberger asks the Armenian to say "pater noster".  Armenians call it "pater nosteri" in two languages: one in the church language and the second in Turkish.

The most spoken language of Armenians was Turkish. The Armenian vernacular language was created recently and is considered to have been completed in the 19th century.  However, the current Armenian language is even more different. They have purified their language, so Armenians do not have ancient folk creativity.  Armenians had a church language, their language was formed based on it.

This author calls the Armenians ethnic for the first time and draws a scheme of how to mislead and use them, explains in detail in this book: https://www.avetruthbooks.com/2023/10/thomas-charles-fleuriau-darmenonville-estat-present-de-larmenie-tant-pour-le-temporel-que-pour-le-spirituel-1694.html

The problem is that the French word back then is not the same as it is today.  The Ottomans also called Armenians a nation. There were also Muslim nations, Greeks and Jews.  Early Jews (in Mecca, Medina, Yemen) are ethnic Arabs, for example.  The problem is that the meaning of the term is shifting.  Towards the end of the 17th century there are French dictionaries.  There are even late 18th and early 19th century ones.  Armenians were also mentioned there. All of them explained that Armenian is the name of the religious community. By the time of Urartu, the peoples had disappeared.  New nations were born.  Armenians are a mixture of Irani and Sami peoples. And, of course, there are assimilated Caucasians (for example, Udins). The modern successors of Urartu are Vainakhs based on language. The next stage is the Nakh-Daghestan language group.

Before Christmas, the entire population of Urartu was expelled or slaughtered by the Scythians.  Only after the collapse of Urartu, the Arameans from the Sami people gradually settled in the region.  The rule of the Scythians did not last long and they retreated to the east.  They move to Azerbaijan from Goycha-Shamkir to the north of Lake Urmia.  It is believed that the Saspirs in Herodotus are the name of the newly formed Scythian alliance that destroyed Urartu.  The so-called Armenian community (as a community in the ethnic sense) emerged later.  The goddess Anahit was stolen from her culture in Iran.

The theory of "Great Armenia" was proposed by the Vatican at the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th century.  The Mkhitarist order is established and this matter is settled.  There is a book (from 1694) that we shared before, in which the first attempt of the Armenians to fix something is described.

The Armenian alphabet is the Aramaic alphabet we know.  Armenians don't have ancient churches, they don't have ancient writings. Like the Ethiopic alphabet, they are letters taken from the Aramaic alphabet. The ancient Armenian texts are the 16th century printed books.  Almost all of them are religious texts without exception. The first history book was published in 1669 by Arakel of Tabriz.  Arakel says that Armenians do not have ancient history books.

Armenians describe Bactrian, Pahlavi, Sasanian noble governors as their national commanders or states.  There are hundreds of ancient books that list the peoples of the Armenian population.  Neither "Hay" nor "Armenian" people exist in any of them.

Their names do not exist before the adoption of Christianity.

If we read Schultz's writing, we will see how fabrications and constructions are created.  There are 60 lithographic books about the Armenians as a religious community. All this information is described here:

https://www.avetruthbooks.com/2023/01/kollektive-sprachen-volker-und-phantome-sprach-und-kulturwissenschaftliche-studien-zur-ethnizitat-2018.html

https://www.avetruthbooks.com/tag/armenian-demonym-religionym

At first, the language of the Armenian religious community had certain influences from those languages ​​included in this community. An ethnic Armenian named Filip Ekozyants revealed these secrets. Here is his article on the subject:https://www.avetruthbooks.com/2020/10/ekozj

Philip Ecozyants himself described it with ancient sources.  We mentioned Arakel.  Armenians do not know the ancient Armenian, that is, the church language.  It means that he cannot read the original work.  Later translations are: French, Russian, New Armenian, English.  Of these translations, only the one in French was not translated by an ethnic Armenian.  Philip Ecozyants compared these four translations with the old Armenian church text.

The Armenian ethnic factor did not exist until the 1700s.  And it was very easy to prove.  For this you need to read the article by Wolfgang Schultz. 

https://www.avetruthbooks.com/2023/01/kollektive-sprachen-volker-und-phantome-sprach-und-kulturwissenschaftliche-studien-zur-ethnizitat-2018.html

In the book published by Arakeli from Tabriz, Armenianness is firstly a religious and secondly a geographical concept.  The book he published is in Grabar language.  This language is called Church Armenian.  It is the same language or dialect as Pahlavi.  In other words, that's why the name of the tag was my demon and my religion.  We will also add Hayton from Korikos.  In his writing, Armenianness is a religious concept, not a nation.  And he also described the language and customs.  It will be a grammar book prepared by Chamchiyan in the 18th century, if I remember correctly. Its name is Armenian, but the language is a church language.  That is, it is the language of Grabar.  Up to 70 printed books have been collected. In their explanatory dictionary, it is about Armenianness.  Church dictionaries are also included.  In all of them it is written that they are not people.  German, French, Russian, Italian, English, Portuguese, Spanish also noted this.

"Vatican Apostolic Library", 1591. 

It is written here in black and white that the Armenian alphabet was created by John Chrysostom/Ioanne Chrysostomo. 

The fact that the Armenian alphabet was created by John Chrysostom does not mean that it was created in 1591.  John Chrysostom (Zlatoust) lived between 347-407 AD.

And this fact was recognized by all European scientists until the middle of the 18th century.  But no one has heard anything about Mesrop Mashtos.  Moreover, many still adhere to this idea.

You can start reading from page 155.

For those interested, the link is https://archive.org/details/bibliothecaapost00rocc

The main issue here is not the year, the issue is what the Armenians have and have now revealed, and Europe was not aware of it.  The Armenians known to Europe (a religious sect called Armenian) were erased from history by the Armenians of today: they did not bring luck, but books remained.  But the Armenians erased it from the academic history.  What the Vatican wrote may or may not be true.  But the fact is that the name of Mesrop Mashtots is nowhere to be found.  The name of Mesrop Mashtos appears in the book of fictional person Movses Khorenatsi in 1694.  Movses Khorenatsi means that there was a concept of Armenianness with an ethnic concept.  The normal translation of Arakeli of Tabriz was French.  The Russian and English translations were prepared and distorted by Armenians.  For example, this period of the state of "Armenia" (331 BC-428 BC) invented by the Armenians is between the Parthian and Sassanid periods.  In general, there was no state called Armenia before.  The Bactrian (or Daki/Dayi) Arshaki dynasty ruled the territory of Armenia.  Macedonians maintained a mercenary army.  These Bactrians came to mercenary service at that time.  Most of them start serving together with Day.  This military unit turned on the leader, raised a rebellion, usurped the power and killed the governor.  Then they pushed out the Macedonian Seleucids in Bactria all the way to Syria.  The Parthian state forced the Seleucids to retreat and ruled the area until the Sassanids.  The remains were also managed by the Sassanids.  That is, the main strength of mercenaries from Bactria was from the Dayi alliance.  When they become rulers, they invent genealogies for themselves.  And they call themselves the children of Darius, the Achaemenid ruler who was defeated by Alexander. The ancient Macedonians were a people close to the Greeks.  One of the 7 branches of the Macedonians ruled in Armenia.  Before the Sassanids, the ruler divided the regions among his relatives.  In order to strengthen their power, they ruled the area before the Sassanids.

Also during the Sassanid period in Armenia, some Bactrian governor aspired for independence and started a rebellion against the Sassanids and established a state. The Sassanids were at war with Byzantium for a long time.  Armenia sometimes passed to the Sassanids and sometimes to Byzantium.  Governors of Arshaki origin also worked according to the situation in order not to lose power between these two states. In other words, they kissed the feet of strong rulers like governors from this house and turned their heads. So, the Parthian or Bactrian governors from the Arshaki dynasty were made "Armenian history" by Armenians.  He was a Parthian who founded the Armenian Church. The Mamikonians who raised the "Armenian revolt" (against the Sassanids) were also parfs. But it is not known whether they are Gregorian or Nestorian. It means that the population has become parf.  Christian Parthians are at least spiritual ancestors of Armenians. From the Armenian language, you can feel who they are from. The share of influence of the Middle Persian language is in the first place here. In short, it refers to Middle Persian, presented as the Parsi/Pahlavi language.  Nestorians were the most Christian among Pahlavi speakers (middle Persian speakers). A small number, especially those in Osroene, converted to Gregorianism.

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